tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post386653657334812090..comments2023-08-07T21:58:26.720-04:00Comments on Pistrina Liturgica: SPRING 2016 MAIL BAG IThe Readerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09191910319072202603noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-68746151134750340792017-06-22T23:20:40.405-04:002017-06-22T23:20:40.405-04:00If true this answers a q had about where in TX doe...If true this answers a q had about where in TX does Dr. Droleskey and family receive sacraments = saw no place near the place in TX where believe he is using a traditional mass data base.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-77902023089805580052017-03-06T17:11:10.606-05:002017-03-06T17:11:10.606-05:00You forgot the Hnilica line Bishop named Bishop Mi...You forgot the Hnilica line Bishop named Bishop Michael French from England.<br />Hnilica was consecrated in 1953.(Long before the required Pius XII changes to Holy Communion fast & Holy Week.Holy Saturday 1951 was optional for parishes)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-60091400680372201682016-04-25T21:08:49.698-04:002016-04-25T21:08:49.698-04:00When did Dolan admit to any mistakes he made? I&#...When did Dolan admit to any mistakes he made? I'm unaware of that, unless you are talking about his mistake of fr. Ramolla? He never admitted to his mistake of defending Lotarski. The only reason he felt Ramolla was a mistake is because he helped in exposing the school scandal.Anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787177355765706886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-40995250498891349042016-04-25T21:07:33.001-04:002016-04-25T21:07:33.001-04:00In Mexico during the revolution and the Cristero r...In Mexico during the revolution and the Cristero revolt public Masses ceased because of profanation that often took place. What to do? Those who were able to offer Mass privately even sent the Blessed Sacrament with young children who visited their Mom or Dad in jail. Very often the child was instructed by the priest in this matter. Check it out, you history buffs. Was that our of the norm? Of Course. It was necessary since the Blessed Sacrament brings grace and life to the soul. In Eastern Europe, in China it was routine that bishops (during the reign of Pope Pius XII) would ordain (no one have a heart attack) even married men so the laity would have the Sacraments. Many of these married bishops and priests refused to cooperate with the "Pax Movement" (recognized by Rome) which were those among the hierarchy who compromised with the Communist authorities. It might do some a little bit of good to actually read history, study it, understand it. The Church survives. Thankfully many will not have to rely on the Sede Vacantist enterprise. Pristina Liturgica is to be thanked for at least shedding light on those who have no problem defaming and undermining the work of other bishops and priests who truly desire to serve the cause of Christ and His Church -without profit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-16975805115519776072016-04-25T20:59:22.626-04:002016-04-25T20:59:22.626-04:00Every single one of these bishops have made mistak...Every single one of these bishops have made mistakes, hopefully at least, in good faith. Pope Pius XII obviously made mistakes in more than a few bishops as these were the men that went on to lead Vatican II and the results of that unfortunate Council. Bishop McKenna (RIP) published an entire list of his mistakes (he forgot a few as well) and Pivanuras, Dolan and the rest, have done the same. Bishop Slupski has had the sense at least to stay away from these men and his primary concern remains the providing of valid priests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-4812989962729742202016-04-24T00:37:37.046-04:002016-04-24T00:37:37.046-04:00To Anonymous April 15, 2016 at 11:55 PM. Those wh...To Anonymous April 15, 2016 at 11:55 PM. Those who have commented about Fr Gilchrist in a negative light are into their favourite pastime. I would not want to be in their shoes come judgement day. Wonder what their prayer life is like? They have to be disturbed souls. I feel sorry for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-22467306316738378942016-04-22T21:34:47.078-04:002016-04-22T21:34:47.078-04:00We will all answer to God for our crimes. If Fr G...We will all answer to God for our crimes. If Fr Gilchrist is not your cup of tea, move on; dust your feet and move on. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-11603737711345362082016-04-16T22:52:56.998-04:002016-04-16T22:52:56.998-04:00Very well said.Gilchrist and the Cult leaders are ...Very well said.Gilchrist and the Cult leaders are just low life scum.They will answer to God for their crimes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-31097769810376697222016-04-15T22:45:37.109-04:002016-04-15T22:45:37.109-04:00Yes, he is.
He was ordained by Bp. Pivarunas.
Ac...Yes, he is.<br /><br />He was ordained by Bp. Pivarunas.<br /><br />According to CMRI's directory for masses (international, Australia and New Zealand), he is based in Adelaide, South Australia. See this link: <br /><br />http://www.cmri.org/latin-mass-directory/traditional-latin-mass-locations-5b.shtml<br /><br />If you are good - people will get know about it.<br /><br />If you are bad - people will get to know about it.<br /><br />Simple as that. Word will get around. Nothing can be hidden for long.<br /><br />There is a Chinese proverb: 水落石出 (when the waters recede, the rocks appear). Very apt, don't you think?<br /><br />Same for the SGG School Scandal. Dolan/Cekada tried to keep the lid on the whole thing, used all means (fair or foul; but much more foul than fair). Yet the truth came out.<br /><br />Let this be a warning to all cultlings who enable the cult leaders. Carry on and you will be led to your destruction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-69101030634359310852016-04-15T20:25:23.947-04:002016-04-15T20:25:23.947-04:00I was expecting something along the lines of Divin...I was expecting something along the lines of <i>Divina Commedia</i> including the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrapasso" rel="nofollow"><i>contrapasso</i></a> from Inferno Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-72536203225701156652016-04-15T17:55:58.925-04:002016-04-15T17:55:58.925-04:00I hear so much about Fr. Gilchrist in a negative l...I hear so much about Fr. Gilchrist in a negative light. Is he with the CMRI?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-71255428252565430932016-04-15T16:49:04.590-04:002016-04-15T16:49:04.590-04:00Do you have the original "Ode"? I don...Do you have the original "Ode"? I don't know if what I read was the actual one and would like to know. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12209665430287592816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-91789298661016460132016-04-15T11:09:50.358-04:002016-04-15T11:09:50.358-04:00In answer to a question about Eamon Shea’s “poem,”...In answer to a question about Eamon Shea’s “poem,” it was a rather lengthy one entitled “Ode to Reality.” To the “uninitiated,” some of it might be hard to understand, since it often made oblique references to things with which only those “close to the situation” were familiar. However, it was an excellent synopsis of everything that was (and IS) wrong with SGG.<br /><br />Eamon, by the way, was the very first to speak out against the abuses at SGG. He sent Dolan an e-mail in Christmas 2008, noting them (including the abuses at the school, and the unchallenged immoral behavior of the school principal’s sons); and he challenged Dannie to do something about it. The “something” that Dirtbag Dan did was to expel Mr. Shea from the parish, and then to mount a systematic campaign of slander against him (including accusing him of being mentally unstable). (At one time, there was even a rumor started that Eamon was going to show up at an SGG “parish picnic” with an AK-47 rifle!)<br /><br />After his (Eamon’s) ouster from SGG, others found out about those abuses (including the unmistakable visible evidence of a girl “large with child” by one of the principal’s sons), and got involved. For a time, Dannie and Tony were successful at “keeping a lid on things.” But as the abuses became more evident, more and more people noticed (and got involved). It all culminated in a mass exodus of parishioners in 2009 -- a process that continues to this day.<br />The Watcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18313770117983560091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-22914328035153589222016-04-14T21:43:07.446-04:002016-04-14T21:43:07.446-04:00Since when is it OK to ordain a man just so he can...Since when is it OK to ordain a man just so he can serve his little family, to keep quiet & never go public?! Talk about being insular! This is being insular in the extreme. A man isn't called to the priesthood for himself alone. This is as bizarre as pope Michael. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-86941396822607038102016-04-14T12:32:24.628-04:002016-04-14T12:32:24.628-04:00Thank you on behalf of we who do have a few good p...Thank you on behalf of we who do have a few good priests that still serve us. You are right. God will never abandon us as long as we Seek Him. If you need a site to go to for the Prayer of the Universal Church, may I suggest www.breviary.net. This site is absolutely magnificent. Please go to it, as it has so much to offer for people like you, who are the true victims of a world gone GODLESS.<br /><br />Keep up the good work by serving God and not mammon. You have a special blessing given you by GOD for the Faith especially under your living conditions. God Bless and Keep You Always.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-49086744312704939582016-04-14T03:49:19.060-04:002016-04-14T03:49:19.060-04:00Hi, Anon at 7:33am
I am the Anon who commented at...Hi, Anon at 7:33am<br /><br />I am the Anon who commented at 5:18am.<br /><br />Cowardice is not the only amazing thing. Hypocrisy is the other amazing thing, and this tops his cowardice. The third amazing thing could be the depth of his self-deception. He might actually believe that he is a good, devout and holy person (the persona which he presents to the public). Let me know whether you agree.<br /><br />The tragedy is not limited to having defamed Bp Petko. Not limited to using or manipulating the 2 young seminarians. But also making the seminarians participants in serious sin (i.e. defaming Bp Petko). Leading the seminarians into sin. And not just leading, but possibly coercing the seminarians to do evil - it could be the dangling of the carrot of "ordination" before the seminarians. If the seminarians refuse to go along with the nefarious scheme, then no "ordination" for the seminarians.<br /><br />So you can see how much evil there is in this sordid episode:-<br /><br />(1) leading/coercing the seminarians to sin - remember what Our Lord said in the Gospel about those who scandalize the little ones?<br /><br />(2) dangling the carrot of "ordination" - this could be sacrilege, treating holy things in an unworthy/unholy manner.<br /><br />(3) Injustice - after making use of the seminarians, Ramolla/Droleskey left them high and dry. After using and misleading the SAG parishioners in ousting Bp Petko and Fr Bernard Hall, Ramolla/Droleskey also left them high and dry; just dumped them.<br /><br />Any moral theologian lurking around here who might want to confirm this point? Or correct me if I'm wrong?<br /><br />Ramolla/Droleskey hath wrought much destruction, as have Piv/Gilchrist, and also Dolan/Cekada/Sanborn.<br /><br />It is high time that all traditional Catholics wake up, acknowledge the facts (unpleasant as they are) and recall what St John Eudes has written: that when God is thoroughly angry with His people, he sends them priests who are not zealous pastors but wolves in sheepskin.<br /><br />The point: the people get the priests that they deserve. There is no escaping this.<br /><br />If the laity truly desire the good - then they must make up their minds to be truly good. This means prayer, penance, self-denial, purity of intention. Not TradNation politics. Not fake piety (as in pretty vestments, and pretty liturgy at SGG while ignoring weightier moral issues). Nor fake moral theology (this blog has given examples from SGG). Only when the laity has done true and sufficient penance (for their participating in and enabling of cult practices and organizations) will the Lord show mercy, as He did with the Ninevites of old.<br /><br />Thankfully, I am far from the reach of the cults of SGG, CMRI, etc. I live in South East Asia, where Catholics (novus ordo) are a tiny minority surrounded by Protestants (larger, but still a minority), Muslims and Buddhists. I do not have the benefit of the Traditional Latin Mass, nor of traditional priests. I am very much alone, but I am spared the predations of the cult clergy like SGG/CMRI.<br /><br />While keeping our eyes open, and alert against fraudsters, conmen and cults - let us all strive to be truly Catholic. If we strive to be just that, we cannot fail to be holy. Because the Church has all that is necessary to make us holy - holy teaching (catechism, sacred doctrine, moral theology); holy examples (lives of the saints; means of holiness (sacraments, sacramentals). Let's do that, while waiting for better days to dawn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-38286627311358209272016-04-14T02:25:33.596-04:002016-04-14T02:25:33.596-04:00Hi, Anon @5:55am
I believe you are referring to t...Hi, Anon @5:55am<br /><br />I believe you are referring to the late Dr Rama Coomarasway.<br /><br />He was quite quite an intellectual. He was a layman from India, studied surgery and later Psychiatry (or Psychology?) both at postgraduate level in Ivy League universities.<br /><br />While still a layman, he lectured at SSPV's seminary. He wrote some books (e.g. The Destruction of Christian Tradition, The Problem with the New Mass) and articles (e.g. The Destruction of the Sacraments). He also critiqued the "theology" of Michael Davies.<br /><br />He visited the CMRI's Fatima Conference. Not sure if it was during that visit that he broached the subject of getting himself ordained priest. Pivarunas disagreed, after which he no longer appeared at CMRI Mt St Michael's.<br /><br />He was subsequently ordained priest (I don't know by whom), but I understand that he was not living with his wife/family.<br /><br />So his situation is not identical with Dr Droleskey's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-76210711913343397222016-04-14T01:33:59.437-04:002016-04-14T01:33:59.437-04:00AnonymousApril 14, 2016 at 5:18 AM
Hi, Watcher...
...AnonymousApril 14, 2016 at 5:18 AM<br />Hi, Watcher...<br /><br />WOW! Did you ever hit the nail on the head!<br /><br />The amazing thing about a coward is, they never apologize. To date the Publisher of The Created Chaos at SAG did not apologize to Bishop Petko or any of the souls he reeked havoc upon. He has a group of trads that will follow him off into the sunset, for they know, no better. <br />He has a Phd in Political Science, not Theology. But who really cares today in the land of Chaos. We will just have to wait for Christ to save us. Let me clarify, that would be CHRIST THE KING, Not Droleskey, "The Self Appointed Anointed One".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-19152599610345235582016-04-13T23:55:09.468-04:002016-04-13T23:55:09.468-04:00As regards Dr. D - perhaps they live as brother &a...As regards Dr. D - perhaps they live as brother & sister since they have a child that must be cared for?<br />There was another case of a married man becoming a priest. I don't remember what rite, but think it was the Latin. I can't pronounce, much less spell his name but it's like Cassaswami but with a few more letters. I'm sure someone on here knows who I'm referring to. Sorry that I can't Google him since I can't spell his name. Who ordained him? Slupski? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-28905397702216100982016-04-13T23:18:15.895-04:002016-04-13T23:18:15.895-04:00Hi, Watcher
This would make Dr Droleskey the firs...Hi, Watcher<br /><br />This would make Dr Droleskey the first (the one and only?) married priest in the latin rite! With a wife and child still living, supposedly with him.<br /><br />Such a scenario is not possible even in the Eastern rites, with mitigated rules on chastity which permit a married clergy.<br /><br />My understanding (if correct) is that in the Eastern rites, if a seminarian wishes to marry, he must get married before his ordination to the major orders. He finishes the academic year, gets married, and then returns to the seminary to complete his studies and get the diaconate. If he is ordained deacon while still single, then from that point in time, he cannot marry.<br /><br />But the case of Dr Droleskey beats this. And a trad bishop is willing to get involved in this?<br /><br />For the ordaining bishop and the ordinand to go through this farce, both must have been struck blind (in the spiritual sense, that is).<br /><br />Besides the requirement of chastity and celibacy - there is also the important question of positive holiness of life. After such public, horrendous slander/libel against Bp. Petko, was there any apology or an attempt to make amends? Remember the general rule of NO RESTITUTION, NO ABSOLUTION in the confessional? If this point is not rectified, this would be a case of adding sin upon sin: receiving the sacrament of orders while in the state of sin, besides receiving the sacrament illicitly.<br /><br />A veritable wild, wild west. Seems that Trad bishops/priests are not inhibited by any rules or laws.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-3562018402005625532016-04-13T19:06:05.026-04:002016-04-13T19:06:05.026-04:00Just to elaborate on what “The Shadow” said on a f...Just to elaborate on what “The Shadow” said on a few things: yes, Ramolla didn’t oppose the SGG clergy for altruistic reasons; he just saw an opportunity there, and he took it. At the time, many of us thought that he WAS a “good guy” (as we thought the same of Droleskey); we even had complimentary things to say about them in a few of our LAY PULPIT posts. But eventually, they both showed their true colors.<br /><br />Ramolla’s “hidden agenda” was, as we stated in a previous comment, to become bishop; and Droleskey was the means to that end. As we said, they trumped up charges against Bp. Paul Petko (St. Albert’s bishop at the time); and the gullible SAG parishioners swallowed their story. Ramolla also had plans to oust Fr. Hall too. At the time, Fr. Hall was physically in England (trying to clear up his immigration status), but was on SAG’s payroll – SUPPOSEDLY.<br /><br />In reality, he was NOT being paid; both Ramolla and one of SAG’s board members (SAG’s treasurer) LIED about his being paid; and when certain board members tried to bring this to light, Ramolla became irate, and RESIGNED. Concurrent with this, Ramolla and Droleskey’s plot against Bp. Petko was in full swing. The board members who exposed Fr. Hall’s “pay” discrepancy were persuaded to join the rest of the board in reinstating Ramolla as pastor – whereupon these same board members were (illegally) ousted by the “Ramolla contingent” of the board. <br /><br />Eventually, the plot against Petko was exposed (with one of the supposedly “mistreated” seminarians RECANTING his story (and apologizing to Petko), while the other – who wrote Petko what can only be described as a “love letter” LESS THAN A MONTH after meeting him – was said to have been “groomed” by Petko to do so. The problem with this charge is that Bp.Petko had precious little time to “accomplish” that “grooming” (about fourteen HOURS in total). But the bigger problem is that this same seminarian hads writtem a love POEM to another seminarian MONTHS BEFORE he ever met Petko.<br /><br />It was Droleskey who engineered this smear campoaign against Bp. Petko; followed up with a long, scathing diatribe (of 50+ pages), “Retracting Support for Paul Petko,” which he published in his blog, “Christ or Chaos.” We at LAY PULPIT responded, taking his lengthy report, and refuting it point by point. Because his original report (and our response) were so long and cumbersome, however, we followed up with four posts that captured the main points. (See http://thelaypulpit.blogspot.com/2013/03/revisiting-doctor-droleskeys-diatribe.html, http://thelaypulpit.blogspot.com/2013/03/lie-no-1-association-with-ryan-scott.html, http://thelaypulpit.blogspot.com/2013/03/lie-no-2-inappropriate-behavior-with.html, and http://thelaypulpit.blogspot.com/2013/04/lie-no-3-grooming-of-seminarian.html.)<br /><br />Droleskey, embarrassed at having been “found out,” has since DELETED his original article – but we have preserved it in its entirety. One last thing, before closing out this lengthy comment (for which we apologize), we corroborate what was said about Droleskey’s becoming a “priest.” (But how – or WHY -- he did that while still “married” is a mystery!) Oh well, in Tradistan, all things are possible!!<br />The Watcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18313770117983560091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-49014190602384658922016-04-13T18:49:03.733-04:002016-04-13T18:49:03.733-04:00Droleskey's ordination fits perfectly into the...Droleskey's ordination fits perfectly into the novel "emergency" traditionalist bishop/priest devised in the 70's and 80's. According to this theory, any man could be ordained/consecrated so long as a valid bishop is willing to do it. There is no need of approved training or the required dimmisorial letter or the need being lawfully sent by the Church to licitly use the powers of the priesthood. <br /><br />According to this new model, with private priestly training centers, run by unauthorized individuals, and ordinations by bishops with no authorization to ordain, it seems that anything goes in this new Wild West of traditionalism. <br /><br />The rules are gone for these people, they make it up as they go along. Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02700328503985444489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-2836140565333320992016-04-13T18:06:24.382-04:002016-04-13T18:06:24.382-04:00Can someone please explain the Cyr brothers situat...Can someone please explain the Cyr brothers situation? I'm afraid I have gotten lost with so many different topics being brought up.Anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787177355765706886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-10484007002479540362016-04-13T16:33:29.727-04:002016-04-13T16:33:29.727-04:00Escape from the N.O.–who knows how many ‘priests’ ...Escape from the N.O.–who knows how many ‘priests’ have escaped from SGG/MHT:<br /><br />"It is, however, more than a little curious that Bishop Dolan once said that he was wrong to have ordained Father Jeremy Cyr to the holy priesthood, making his, Bishop Dolan's, first and last (to this present date) [Fr. Ramolla] ordinations to the priesthood to have been mistaken.<br />http://www.christorchaos.com/ShootingtheMessenger.html<br />"When Tim and Eileen Duff’s little boy died, Dolan did not – according to the little boy’s father -- shed a single tear. Yet, when Jeremy Cyr left SGG, Dolan cried. What kind of person is it who shows no emotion whatsoever for a baby, yet bawls when a grown man leaves him? Daniel, you didn’t cry when Fr. Ferrera or any of the other priests left, or when scores of other people left. Why the tears? What gives?<br /> http://thelaypulpit.blogspot.com/2011_05_01_archive.html<br />"ADOPT A PRIEST PLAN Urgent: priests in great need, or fallen away: Fr. Merardo Loya Fr. Roberto Atocha Fr. Francesco Palladino Fr. Jeremy Cyr Fr. Artemio Fr. David"<br />http://www.sgg.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/20130420.pdf<br /><br />http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1160060/posts<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426244098779533128.post-62636078095509838022016-04-13T16:15:48.746-04:002016-04-13T16:15:48.746-04:00I already wrote a reply to your latest comment, bu...I already wrote a reply to your latest comment, but I won't post it yet. <br /><br />First I want you to answer why you said what you said against the initial comment of the Novus ordo person. You changed the subject and brought up a bunch of other things. Stay in the topic and explain what you said. <br /><br />And, the questions were: 1) do you go to the new mass? 2) do you identify yourself as a traditionalist?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12209665430287592816noreply@blogger.com